Conversations with David

Here we are at Michel’s (2021).

David and I have been married for 42 years. It’s the first marriage for both of us. We now are in our 70s. Neither of us has dementia. We spend our days in conversation.

U.S. Supreme Court.

For instance, we have been discussing the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. Though he is not a woman, David is pro-choice. Me? I am definitely pro-life. He has his reasons and I have mine for feeling the way we do. Our discussions so far have been civil and amicable. But this controversy will continue forever with no real end in sight.


We discuss politics. Our Hawaii primary is scheduled for August 13.

Vicky Cayetano.

David is going to vote for Vicky Cayetano for Governor and Sherry Menor-McNamara for Lt. Governor.

Vicky is married to Ben Cayetano, who was Governor for 2 terms. She once owned and managed United Laundry Services, a profitable company serving hotels and hospitals in Hawaii.

Sherry is President and CEO of the Hawaii Chamber of Commerce.

David likes these 2 women, because they are business oriented.

Dr. Joshua Green.

I plan to vote for Dr. Joshua Green for Governor and Sylvia Luke for Lt. Governor.

Dr. Green has been our Lt. Governor for the past 4 years and has done an excellent job leading the Covid response efforts. He also is a practicing emergency room physician (Pennsylvania State University, MD; University of Pittsburgh, Residency), working twice monthly at a hospital in Kona, Hawaii.

Sylvia Luke is a practicing attorney (University of San Francisco, JD), who chairs the House Finance Commitee. She has brought transparency and accountability to the budget.

I like Dr. Green and Sylvia Luke, because they have the most education and political experience of all the candidates.


We also talk about sports. David is always asking Siri on his iPhone what an athlete’s net worth is.

Tennis star Coco Gauff’s net worth is $2 Million:


As for me, I like the British royal family. I truly admire Queen Elizabeth’s dignity and composure despite the turmoil in her life. And she is 96, having served 70 years on the throne!


David and I don’t always agree with each other, and we do sometimes have divergent interests. But conversation is what drives our marriage. We don’t spend our days in golden silence!

We are not only husband and wife. We are best friends!

22 Responses to “Conversations with David”

  1. DavidH Says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more. You are not only my best friend, you are the only friend I come into regular contact with.

  2. Iris Flavia Says:

    What a wonderful and happy first pic of you two and the ocean!
    And happy anniversary!!!
    And yay to health, of course! And good discussions. And not being forced to be “one person”, same here, thankfully!

  3. Doug M Says:

    That’s wonderful you two can have such different viewpoints yet not let it waver the love and respect for one another. I’m glad to know both of you. 🙂👍♥️

  4. Nancy Chan Says:

    So wonderful to be able to hold discussions even though both do not always think alike. Husband and wife should be best of friends to make a beautiful marriage.

  5. Russell Smith Says:

    It’s a sign of the times that you have to say that it is the “first marriage” for both of you. My parents were married for well over thirty years. They stayed together through thick and thin.

  6. tomthebackroadstraveller Says:

    …we have been married for 54 years and never seem to run out of things to talk about.

  7. Beatrice Says:

    It is OK to agree NOT to agree and the fact that you are both able to voice your own opinions and viewpoints freely and openly is wonderful. These days, it seems there are many who cannot do the same in a civil manner.

  8. Arkansas Patti Says:

    Love the fact that you can have different opinions and still get along so well. Too bad Congress can’t be so amiable.

  9. Hank Chapin Says:

    My late wife, Helen Chapin, used to quote the philosopher Nietzsche to the effect that “marriage is a conversation.” However, we agreed more than you two do. But we talked all the time, and I miss it. Everybody who knew Helen, even her auto mechanic, would comment on what a great conversationalist she was. We were both pro-choice, even though one son is adopted. Abortion didn’t enter into the situation, as he was a living baby. But if I were a young girl and the pregnant victim of rape or incest, I can tell you I would want that fetus removed, absolutely. Overall, we were more anecdotal and storytelling than opinionated. A lot of the anecdotes were amusing, enjoyable and made us laugh.

    Helen left us ten years ago, but I can tell anyone that if they are for Trump they are OUT in my lexicon. I hate to say it, but Trumpers seem stupid to me, with all his lies and hateful behavior. Q-anon? Hello-o, don’t be ridiculous. The Republicans have nothing to say to me and are a disgrace. I think Liz Cheney is heroic. The raid on the Capitol is totally disgusting to me. That’s one reason I like living in Hawaii, aside from the pleasant weather—fewer lunkheads here to drive me crazy. This creates a problem with one of my brothers whom I actually like a lot, but we don’t discuss politics. My other brother and sister agree with me 100%. And one sister seems to be in Lala Land, with no opinions at all about much of anything. I have a girlfriend who is a good conversationalist and she agrees with Gigi on abortion. She believes in prayer and is more religious than I am. In Hawaii, I fully agree with Gigi that Dr. Josh Green has been a great Lieutenant Governor and deserves to be elected Governor. Actually, now that I think of it, this blog is a form of conversation.

    • gigihawaii Says:

      Helen was amazing! She was highly accomplished and regarded. You had a great marriage. As for Trump, he is pro-life, but also a narcissist. I don’t like him at all. He is a trouble maker and mentally unstable.

  10. Elephant's Child Says:

    I am very glad that you are able to continue to converse, despite your very different opinions.

  11. Linda Reeder Says:

    Interesting post. You have quite divergent points of view.

  12. DJan Says:

    My husband and I both have similar views, and we also talk about what’s going on in the world for hours at a time.

  13. marmeladegypsy Says:

    Conversation is so important. So is being able to civilly disagree!

  14. Christine Says:

    Nice post. I don’t agree with overturning Roe Vs. Wade.

  15. Arlene Whitehouse Says:

    We are celebrating 47 years together this week. Conversations are so important. Having different views and different interests and hobbies are so important as well as some the same!

  16. Tom from Sightings Says:

    You’re an inspiration to the rest of us, who should be able to disagree but still love and respect one another. As for my marriage, we argue much more vehemently about the air conditioning setting than we do about politics!

  17. Lakshmi Bhat Says:

    Being the best of friends is how it should be😊. Next month we will be married for 40 years. It has been a wonderful journey and we are the best of friends and we do not agree on many topics 😃. That makes life richer.

  18. David Gascoigne Says:

    With those kinds of fundamental differences, foundational beliefs almost, it’s amazing that you remain civil, let alone together!

  19. joared Says:

    Glad you can enjoy such good conversations. I miss what conversations my husband and I used to have. We didn’t always agree on various matters as I had evolved on some topics in ways he had not. He didn’t have as much interest in politics as I have.

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